Start of meeting: 6 October, 9:15 CEST
End of meeting: 7 October, 12:00 CEST
IUP: Jens Borgmann Sven-Erik Ehlers Georg Heygster GH Christian Melsheimer CM DTU-DCRS: Leif Toudal LT Roberto Saldo RS DMI: Søren Andersen SA Rasmus Tonboe met.no: Frank Thomas Tveter FT Harald Schyberg HS Vibeke Thyness VT SMHI: Per Dahlgren PD Nils Gustavsson NG UAG: Stephen English SE Carl Fortelius CF
C SE: As to emissivity; how many degrees of freedom does C emissivity at those AMSU channels have, and how many degrees C of freedom of data do we have.
C GH: Why innovation curve not maximum at
C y - Hxb = 0?
C FT: There is usually a bias between RTTOV result and measured Tb.
C GH: Impact of new quality control checked? C FT: Being done now. C SE: Equation of risk function? C FT: In Deliverable report (here). C GH: Innovation thresholds different over open water, ice etc.? C FT: Not yet. C NG: Compare old cloud contamination check with this new method.V. Thyness
C GH: 2 changes: New QC, and better ice emissivities from DTU? C VT: Yes. C SE: Exp.: AMSU-A assimilation only over ice, not over water; C Ref.: no AMSU-A assimilation at all? C VT: Correct.H. Schyberg
C NG: Would be interesting to see which AMSU-A observation in C which region contributes to the improvement C GH: 3DVar? C HS: Yes, the 4DVar HIRLAM is not yet operational. C SE: Is this a direct effect of AMSU-A assimilation, over indirect C effect by "supporting" some sparse observations C (Bjørnøya) that would otherwise have been rejected? C HS: Both. C SE: You could systematically check forecast against analysis.
C SE: How do forecasters locate fronts? C HS: for short range forecast: AVHRR C CF: Note: surface fronts not equal to cloud patterns C HS: ⇒ R-factor: deep clouds, i.e., height-integrated; AVHRR: cloud tops
C GH: Would you rather assimilate AMSU TWV or AMSU-B radiances? C PD: Not decided yet. C SE: Is the cloud mask over ice bad? Did you check that yourself? C PD: No, the info is from experience at other institutes. C GH: Can we say something general about the two opposite strategies C of (1) assimilating direct data (radiances) and (2) C assimilating retrieved quantities? C SE: Past experience: the smaller the model bias, the less useful C is the assimilation of retrieved quantities. C NG: But assimilating retrieved quantities helps identifying C biases! C GH: Is this worth a publication? C NG/SE: Yes. C NG: Some money in DAMOCLES is planned for that.N. Gustavsson
C LK: In the turbulence scheme: what is the roughness length over sea C ice? C NG: Roughness length depends on surface type, wind speed (water); C over ice, it is needed, but not done yet. C NG/GH/LT: There is a WP on sea ice albedo in DAMOCLES.
C CM: How about emissivity at AMSU-A at non-window channels (50-60 GHz)? C LT: Approximately equal to emissivity at 50 GHz
C NG: Ice type: reliable? C LT: it is still susceptible to atmospheric changes/variability C SA: Use MY IC for NWP? C HS: In fact, SSM/I MY IC used as a predictor for surface C emissivity C SA: Note that SSM/I MY ice is very unstable, it is only something C like 90 GHz emission. C C LT: How many degrees of freedom are there in emissivities of AMSU C channels? C HS: Regional differences: ice physically different; would be good C to know more. C LT: Distinction into FYI and MYI explain 97% of the variability of C emissivity ... C CM: ... in other words, FYI and MYI are something like the first two C principal components (thus about >2 degrees of freedom??) C GH: Regional differences are related to different meteorol. history
C LK: What does CLW over ice show? C LT: part of it is just ice emissivity variations, we include C Rasmus Tonboe's emissivity model (meteorol. history) C LK: Over snow-covered land? C LT: A snow emissivity model would be needed for that...
NWP problem in polar areas have been demonstrated: there is enormous potential for improvement
On biases: biases often reduced by assimilation, but: bias must be pinned down, model induced bias must be avoided/corrected first, where possible (there will be an ECMWF workshop on bias correction in November)
Don't stop when you have demonstrated positive impact, but make the improvements enter into HIRLAM reference system.
AVHRR | Advanced very high resolution radiometer (Vis./NIR sensor on NOAA satellites) |
BAMS | Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society |
CLW | cloud liquid water |
TWV | column water vapour (= TWV = PWV) |
DAMOCLES | Developing Arctic Modelling and Observing Capabilities for Long-term Environmental Studies (FP 6 project, to start early 2006)) |
DMI | Danish Meteorological Institute |
DTU-DCRS | Technical Univ. of Denmark, Danish Center for Remote Sensing |
ECMWF | European Centre for Medium-range Weather Forecast |
epsilon, eps | Surface emissivity |
EWGLAM | European Working Group on Limited Area Modelling |
FASTEM | Fast Emissivity Model, for open water emissivities, used, e.g. by RTTOV |
FMI | Finnish Meteorological Institute |
FY | first-year (ice) |
HIRLAM | High Resolution Limited Area Model |
IC | ice concentration |
IR | infra-red |
IUP | Institut für Umweltphysik (Environm. Physics), Univ. Bremen |
MEMLSI | Microwave Emission Model of Layered Snowpacks on Ice |
met.no | Norwegian Meteorological Institute |
MWMOD | MicroWave MODel (by Fuhrhop et. al) |
MW | microwave |
MY | multi-year (ice) |
NCEP | National Centers for Environmental Prediction |
NT | NASA TEAM (algorithm for sea ice concentration retrieval) |
NT2 | NASA TEAM 2 (algorithm for sea ice concentration retrieval) |
NWP | numerical weather prediction |
OEM | optimal estimation method |
OSI SAF | SAF on Ocean and Sea Ice |
QC | quality control |
PWV | precipitable water vapour (= TWV = CWV) |
RGPS | RADARSAT Geophysical Processor System |
RT | radiative transfer |
RTTOV | radiative transfer model for TOVS data (e.g. AMSU) |
SAF | Satellite Application Facility |
SMHI | Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute |
SST | sea surface temperature |
T | temperature |
Tb | brightness temperature |
TCW | total cloud water |
TGARS-L | IEEE Transactions on Geoscience and Remote Sensing, Letters |
TUD | Technological Universiry of Denmark (= DTU) |
TWV | total water vapour (= CWV = PWV) |
VIS/NIR | visible and near infrared |
WV | water vapour |