Feedback from IOMASA User Advisory Group after PM1 at DMI, Copenhagen, 24-25 April, 2003

[Carl Fortelius] [Keld Q. Hansen] [Markku Rummukainen] [Helge Tangen]  [^to main page]

Carl Fortelius, FMI

I am head of the atmospheric modelling group of the Finnish Meteorological Institute. My group consists of ten scientists, working in the department of meteorological research. Together with the international HIRLAM project, we develop the HIRLAM NWP system, and we also maintain a national implementation of HIRLAM for operational use.

I hold a Ph. D. in meteorology from the University of Helsinki since 1993. Most of my own research work is spent on the assesment of meteorological data assimilation systems with respect to processes related to the climatic energy and water cycles.

My comments on the IOMASA project focus on the data assimilation development. They deal partly with the methods used to assess the impact and utility of the innovations, and partly with steps that could be taken in order to ensure that the procedures developed within this project are offered for general use within and outside of the HIRLAM community with a minimum of delay.

From the point of view of an NWP agency like FMI, the most interesting potential result of IOMASA are the new procedures for assimilating AMSU-A and AMSU-B data in the context of the HIRLAM NWP system. The channel whereby innovations are distributed among the HIRLAM project is the HIRLAM reference system. Therefore new procedures developed within IOMASA, as well as their evaluation, should ideally be brought to a level of perfection and completeness where they can be accepted into the HIRLAM reference system at the end of the project. This would involve substantial testing using the reference version of HIRLAM rather than national implementations, as is described in the IOMASA document of work. If this goal is too ambitious to be achieved within IOMASA, then the necessary steps whereby it could be achieved later could be described in the IOMASA technology implementation plan (TIP).

The IOMASA document of work describes how to evaluate innovations by their impact on forecast verification statistics and the evolution of selected cases. It is worth considering to look, as well, at the statistics of analysis increments and the short range tendencies of prognostic variables. Such scrutiny might give valuable insight into the interaction between the data assimilation module and the parameterized physics, which is potentially important noting the strong influence of model physics on the humidity distribution. For example, if two different approaches are followed for assimilating AMSU-B moisture data, not only the differences in the ensuing forecasts are of interest. It is also important to understand the mechanisms whereby the different forecasts arise. Three-dimensional arrays of the tendencies of temperature, moisture and cloud condensate, generated by individual parameterized processes, are available from HIRLAM and might be useful.

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Keld Q. Hansen, DMI

Background:

Head of the operational ice charting group (Greenland Waters) at DMI. To ensure and support safe operations the Ice Service provides high resolution ice information (primarily ice charts) to a number of clients, i.e. Danish Coast Guard, commercial and passenger vessels. Most operational products are based on near real time data from Radarsat SAR, NOAA-AVHRR and DMSP- SSM/I.

The Marine users demands to products:

Outcome of UAG PM1:

IOMASA is a very ambitious scientific project !!

IOMASA Overall objective:

New products and improved input to weather models in this case the end users are operational weather centers

Problems ­ challenges:

Focusing at the DMI operational users needs a number of secondary products may be a result of IOMASA, i.e.:

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Markku Rummukainen, SMHI

I represent regional climate modeling in the UAG. In addition to our own work at SMHI in Sweden, we are involved in Nordic and European research projects. Some of these target the Arctic, such as GLIMPSE (EU/FP5-project coordinated by Klaus Detloff).

A basic comment is that even though climate modeling is mentioned in the IOMASA project plan, there is nothing concrete on how the work by IOMASA or its results in practice benefit climate modeling. I suppose that we found some ways in the meeting. I hope that these will be followed up, as appropriate:

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Helge Tangen, met.no

Personal background:

Weather forecaster 13 years

Present position:

Regional Director in Tromsoe at met.no's forecasting center for Northern Norway and the Arctic. Responsible for weather forecasts for land areas, sea districts and aviation north of lat. 65 degrees North. National Ice Service located at the Tromsoe office. The ice service issues daily ice and sea surface temperature charts for the European Arctic/Barents Sea. I am also Project Manager for the High Latitude Center of EUMETSATs Ocean & Sea Ice SAF. From February this year I am also Project Manager for ICEMON, a part of the GMES programme, funded by EU and ESA.

Feedback to the IOMASA project:

IOMASA is pointing towards very relevant topics both for weather forecasting and ice charting. What I consider unclear is:

Best regards,
Helge Tangen

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